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America's Legendary Singer-Songwriter
Don:
I’d like to wish
everyone a merry
Christmas and a
happy new year. I
want to give special
thanks to people
like David New, Bob
Gregg, Jim Monaghan,
and Ron Buck - who
wrote those
beautiful pages in
the biography - and
to all my fans who
have been so
supportive including
the usual gang,
people like Bill
Nisbett, Hannah,
Annie, Bill
Hamilton and Kristin
who show up whenever
I play Ireland or
Britain. I’m really
blessed and I almost
think of these
people as family; in
fact I’m closer to
them than to some
distant relatives.
Alan Howard:
We have received
lots of questions
from fans around
the world wondering
whether you’ll
continue to tour.
Some British fans
fear that the
destruction of their
currency may mean it
is no longer
economically viable.
Don:
I’m going to
continue touring the
world until I cannot
sing anymore or
until physical
impairment prevents
me from doing that.
It will have nothing
to with money or
currency exchange
fluctuations or
anything like that;
I will just continue
to go on for as long
as I can go on.
2009 will be spent
in the United States
and Canada with my
agents the Agency
Group and my agent
Steve Martin. 2010
will probably bring
me back to all the
places I have been –
including Australia
and the UK and the
places in Europe
that were very keen
to have me on the
European tour that
we had to cancel
earlier this year.
There will also be
Canadian and USA
dates in 2010.
Alan:
Another frequently
asked question
concerns the “Till
Tomorrow” DVD. Will
this be released
anytime soon?
Don:
That comes up every
now and then about
whether or not it
can be put out and
we seem to run into
a road block over
certain requirements
that I have about
the songs that are
on the DVD. It may
come out; I’m not
going to say that it
won’t. There are
portions of it
available on the
Starry Starry Night
DVD.
Alan:
Won’t it all be on
Youtube before you
get to release it?
Don:
Let me talk about
Youtube for a
minute. I was
approached by a very
powerful legal firm
in California a
couple of years ago
and they asked me to
spearhead a lawsuit
against Youtube. I
thought about it and
decided I really
didn’t want to be
involved because it
had to do with
artists getting paid
and I felt something
would be worked out
and they would be
paid. Also it was
probably a good
thing for artists
that fans are able
to access
performances. I
wasn’t aware how
extensive my
presence was on
Youtube until they
sent me a DVD with
all these things on
it.
The fascinating thing is that my son, who is becoming a really good guitarist, is very computer literate and he was suddenly reintroduced to me through Youtube. I don’t think he realised quite how far back I go so that’s been a very nice thing to share with my son at this point in his life.
Ger Bosdijk:
Will there ever be a
DVD of one of your
recent performances
- a DVD of a whole
concert with good
sound quality. I
have seen your
concert lately in
Turnhout,
Belgium.....and it
was great.
Don:
Yes there may be a
DVD of something
we’re doing right
now. The Milwaukee
PBS station wants to
come with their crew
and six cameras and
record my show there
soon. So that may
end up getting
networked and we’re
negotiating with
them right now.
David Moore:
Is there a label for
the new CD
(“Addicted to
Black”) or is it
only to be available
at the shows or on
the web?
Don:
No there is not a
label for the CD. It
will be on Don
McLean Records and
it will be sold in
shows and on the
Web. Eventually it
may find its way on
to some label but it
won’t be able to be
in the stores
because there are no
stores.
David Moore:
I loved the
Shakespeare sonnet
that you sang on A &
E's Sunday morning
breakfast show from
about a year ago. It
was listed in the
show as "Lovers Love
the Spring". My
question is: is this
song appearing on
your "Addicted to
Black" album?
Don:
Yes it is on the
“Addicted to Black”
album.
Jo:
What aspect of your
career has turned
out to be the most
satisfying to look
back on? Are some
songs more
satisfying to have
written than others
and, if that is the
case, what is that
makes them so?
Don:
This is going to
sound strange but I
don’t really think
of myself as a poet
or a songwriter or
anything. I don’t
really think of
myself as anything.
I’ve only done this
my whole life; I’ve
never worked for
anybody or been in
an office setting or
been around a boss.
I’ve made up my own
life as it’s gone
along and did what I
felt like doing. So
in the days when I
had recording
contracts and I was
a young artist I
drifted into
songwriting but I
also loved singing
other people’s songs
and so I did that as
well.
I received a lot of flack for everything that I ever did. If I sang other people’s songs I wasn’t supposed to do that and if I wrote my own songs I got criticised for the kinds of things I wrote sometimes. So it was always a swimming upstream type of situation. American Pie was too long and couldn’t be a hit; Vincent was too weird.
Nowadays some say they’d like to see me solo and that they don’t like the band - and I must say some people go out of their way to criticise the band and it hurts them; it’s painful. I don’t like to see that. I would like them to keep those thoughts to themselves because I’ve been with these people for over 10 years and they’re an integral part of what I do and fans have to accept that.
I have seen many artists that I love very much and there would be songs that would put me too sleep or bore me and then they’d be one that would knock me out and that’s the nature of live performing.
Alan:
How did Vip
Vipperman come to
join the band
recently?
Don:
Vip is our current
guitar player
because Pat
Severs has got a
wonderful job with
NBC in their band
for the Nashville
star program. It
pays him benefits
and a lot more money
and he gets to stay
home and not travel.
In addition he has
pursued the quest
for an adoption and
it’s taken him two
years and it’s been
an absolute
bureaucratic
nightmare. First he
started out looking
for a daughter in
Vietnam and after
almost a year of
constant work that
fell apart. And then
he pursued a young
son (8 year old boy)
in Russia and
succeeded in doing
that and he now has
his son. He and his
wife are deliriously
happy.
So he’s been so busy with all this stuff he’s been distracted from just about everything and he perfectly understood that we needed to have someone there for every date. Vip Vipperman is a songwriter and a wonderful guitar player and he is with us now but we always keep the door open to all of the guitar players including Kerry Marx, Pat Severs, who gave nine years of his life to me, and Mike Severs who was with us this summer. You’ll be seeing other guitar players from time to time and maybe two in one show or I may bring Pat with me as a steel guitar player at some point because he’s a terrific steel guitar player; that’s his forte. So we don’t fire people but occasionally we add another person to the band.
But going back to the point that I don’t really see myself as anything except as this musical creature: the touring and the singing have been the most satisfying. Making records is very disappointing a lot of times. You do your very best and people don’t care about it or the record company hates it. These days it’s very sad to see the music business basically evaporating. There are no music stores to go to in America. You can’t go and enjoy being around 1000s of albums and choosing things and coming back with a whole bunch of things. The studios are closing. The idea of going into the studio and making a recording with talented side men and a great producer is pretty much over because they can email their parts in and everyone is working from home. The whole culture of the music business from making the records to selling the records to hearing them on the radio (because the DJ liked the song rather than because the DJ got paid a lot of money) is all over. It’s a different business now. It takes $1m for a young artist to get on the charts and they shove it up the charts with all this money and then when people are sick of it it falls away and you never hear of it again.
So it is the live performing part of it that I have always enjoyed despite the fact I find travel very difficult. It’s ridiculous – I was telling my wife that I’ve heard so much applause; you know - how many people hear applause? It’s just been part of my life and so it’s weird and it’s wonderful.
Bill Hamilton:
The difficulties you
had in getting your
first album
'Tapestry' to market
are well documented.
It seems ironic that
things seem to be
even harder for your
'last' album
'Addicted to Black'!
In what ways do you
think life is now
more difficult for a
recording artist
than when you
started in the late
1960s, and in what
ways easier?
Don:
I think I’ve covered
that. The music
business doesn’t
exist anymore so
it’s a mystery to me
how anybody gets
started. My album,
Addicted to Black,
will be coming out
on the Web and will
be sold at shows. We
are looking to EMI
in the UK to put it
out possibly. Those
are the only options
I have.
Alan:
When will that be?
Don:
I’m working on the
artwork right now so
in the next month or
two it’s going to be
out. And I do have
plans to put out the
Live in
Manchester album and
DVD in one package
because I had that
transferred from
tape to RADAR, which
is a digital format.
That was the show we
did in Manchester in
1991 with the green
shirt. That’s my
next project.
Alan:
How about the new
book about Don
McLean?
Don:
Yes, in addition I’m
working on a very
large coffee table
book which will be
called “Don McLean’s
American Pie” . It
will use a lot of
photographs taken
here at my home of
my guitars, clothes,
all these various
collections I have -
as well as
handwritten lyrics
to many of my songs.
It will probably be
a 375 page book with
a slip case; the
whole nine yards. It
will focus on 12
albums which will be
discussed and which
will cover my entire
career.
However just to finish Bill’s question the first album is the hardest album to get out because you have to get a record deal. In those days it was fairly straight forward – you could either get it or you couldn’t depending on whether or not the record company liked you. Most of the record companies liked me but didn’t like the Tapestry album. They didn’t think it was cool enough and so it was very difficult. I had to hold on to my beliefs that the Tapestry album was what I wanted and best reflected me. Eventually it did sell a lot of records and got on the charts so it did quite well and continues to do well - it’s been out for 40 years.
But you’re an unknown so everybody tells you what to do and you really can’t rock the boat too much. You have no power and you’re basically operating on the goodwill of someone who hears you and likes you. So you have to be careful how much you push for what you want. You see that’s the problem – I could never do what people wanted – I could never sing the songs other people wanted me to; I could never fit into the mould they wanted because I just didn’t feel comfortable not being myself. It wasn’t that I was above it all - I would have done just about anything I would have felt comfortable with to get what I wanted – to get started but I just could not feel comfortable singing a song I did not love or writing about a subject that I didn’t think was important. So I just couldn’t do it; it’s not that I wouldn’t have done it – I don’t want people thinking I thought I was above it .
Bill Hamilton:
You have recorded a
number of albums of
interpretations,
from 'Playin
Favourites' and 'For
the Memories' to
Marty Robbins, the
Cowboy album and the
Christmas album.
More recently there
was your take on
Shakespeare's hit
'There Was a Lover
and his Lass'. Have
you ever considered
recording an album
of traditional
British folk songs?
Don:
No I have not. But I
do like Francis J.
Childs and a lot of
those songs very
much but I wouldn’t
feel comfortable
doing an album
because that would
put me in the
position of
appearing as a
traditional folk
singer and I’m
absolutely not and
never could be. But
an occasional song
like that I wouldn’t
be opposed to at
all; they’re very
beautiful.
Gina Woodward:
The question I'd
like to ask Don is
whether you still
write poetry? One of
my prized
possessions is the
booklet " Songs and
Sketches of the
First Clearwater
Crew " that you
compiled and edited
, and , aged 15 , I
fell in love with "
for Pete " and " for
Alan " , and
memorised them both.
I never missed an
occasion to recite
them , much to the
bemusement of my
schoolfriends, who
found David Cassidy
and Donny Osmond far
more interesting!
Don:
I am not a poet; I
have written very
few poems. But thank
you for liking the
few that I have
written, I
appreciate it.
All I want to do now is basically continue singing and I may write a song every now and then but I have no interest in sitting down and saying I’m going to write poems or I’m going to write this or I’m going to write that. I feel like I’ve said a lot of what I have to say. I really don’t want to be repeating myself number 1, and number 2, I don’t care anymore about promoting “Don McLean”.
It’s strange – I’ve just sort of gotten passed myself in a weird way and all I really want to do is sing for people and then go about my business. I have many other interests. I’m satisfied is what I’m saying. I’ve done what I’ve done and I continue to do the performing side of it but I’m just not burning with ambition anymore to do other things.
Annie:
You have said that
you do not read
music .So how do you
get your music
written down? After
it has been written
down does someone
play the written
music back to you so
you know that they
have got it right
for you? You are
truly gifted but
there are a lot of
musicians out here
who want to play
your music but don't
have your intuitive
gift with music.
Don:
The way I write
songs, which is not
very often, is to
sing the song on the
guitar into a tape
recorder. Then I get
the feeling how big
or little the song
is going to be and
work on the song
live on the tape
recorder. I’ll
listen back to parts
that I like and
parts that I don’t
like. Then at some
point when I’ve got
the melody to where
I want I’ll finish
writing the lyrics
and then try the
whole song on the
tape recorder and
listen back to it.
Annie:
Is there ever a day
in your life where
you don't pick up a
guitar or sing?
Don:
There are quite a
few days after I
have stopped
touring. Though I
must say in the last
two years there was
almost never a time
when my bags weren’t
packed and I wasn’t
prepared to leave
for a show. I have
an old desk in my
office. It’s called
a “roll top desk”
and it’s got little
cubby holes and I
will have a contract
and a plane ticket
in 3 or 4 of those
cubby holes and each
time I do a
performance I’ll
remove a contract
and plane ticket and
move the other ones
up and put one more
underneath. Those
cubby holes were
always filled with
shows for the last
two years.
But for a week or two after touring I don’t touch the guitar or sing much and that’s good for your voice – to not sing at all for a few weeks. You’re not meant to be singing with that thing – you’re meant to talk with your voice and maybe yell for a minute if you need to get a cab or if you’re angry with somebody. Your voice is not meant to be used in the way a singer does – it’s a very stressful thing that you’re doing to your vocal chords and it has to be done correctly. So giving it a rest is a very good thing and is also part of my longevity as a singer.
Alan:
When is the new
songbook appearing?
Don:
That’s going to be
called the
“Legendary songs of
Don McLean” on Hal
Leonard and will
have 27 songs on it
and will be out
momentarily. That’s
the first larger
songbook that
they’ve put out.
Annie:
I noticed on your
last tour of the UK
in 2007 that you had
started to use
sometimes an
electronic guitar
tuner, is this
because of the
acoustics within
concert halls making
it hard to hear your
tuning?
Don:
The electronic tuner
that was on the
floor was very good.
When you work with a
band and with this
group who are
phenomenally
talented musicians
and are used to
being in the studio
where everything is
very much in tune.
So if you’re out of
tune it really
clashes with the
group. So I need a
tuner of some sort.
Annie:
I love it that you
never sing the same
set list of songs,
what makes you
choose certain songs
at a concert and how
do you decide what
you are going to
sing first ?
Don:
I’ll have a couple
of songs or maybe
someone will mention
a song and at the
sound check and
we’ll fool around
with a bunch of
things. I might
decide that a
certain song needs
more work so we’ll
work on that one and
then I’ll maybe do
three or four others
and I’ll think
they’re good and the
guys really know
them so I’ll have
those in the bag and
I’ll do those
somewhere in the
show along with all
the ones I usually
do. So every night
they’ll be different
songs. Then I’ll do
three or four sound
checks still working
on the song that
isn’t quite ready
then they’ll come a
night when I lay
that one on the
group and I can tell
when they’re ready
to do it and that
then becomes part of
the repertoire.
Right now we’re doing “Believers”, “I Tune the World Out”, “Love Letters” – a whole bunch of songs. So that’s how I like to do it – you do your rehearsal at the sound check.
It’s good because it gets you going. It’s not just a perfunctory testing of the equipment, it’s a chance to flex your muscles to see how you’re sounding and how the hall sounds and how things feel and so on. This is in stark contrast to the 1970s when I never did a sound check. I don’t know what I did – maybe I had a road manager do it and in the 1980s John Platania always did the sound checks. I wanted to be in the hall as little as possible and I wanted to be on the road as little as possible. If I could get a bus home after the show I would do it. It was really difficult for me to leave the house but I did it and now it’s much easier and I actually enjoy the camaraderie of the boys that I work with. It’s a bit like a family and we’ve been together for so long and do so many things.
But it’s different now – I was very singular in the 1970s; I was off by myself, it was very unique but very singular. Today it’s more of the democratic approach to the road and to everything because everybody has feelings and opinions and sometimes disagreeable political positions and you have to be democratic so it’s good for me as a person. The band has made me grow enormously as a person.
A lot of times I will change the first song that I do but a lot of times I always do the same song. It’s usually a Buddy Holly song I start off with but sometimes it’s something else. But it’s funny how you get used to that song setting the tone for the show. If you try something different it might work but if it doesn’t work you find yourself having to climb up hill for a while to try to get back to where you would have been immediately after the first correct song. I don’t know if that’s a good answer but it’s almost like a lot of times I liken my kind of concert to being like a fighter in the ring – you know, you jab and then maybe a get a flurry of a few things going but it’s a long long haul – it’s not over in a minute – it’s an hour or two of back and forth until finally the audience completely capitulates and you’re not even thinking about the show anymore; they’re all with you and you’re going. That’s a terrific experience and it’s different every time so you’ve got to figure out how to get where you want to get to with a different audience in a different locale.
Annie:
I think you are
very brave in the
way they you bare
you very personal
feelings in your
songs, such as Angry
Words or Perfect
Love and I thank you
for that , Obviously
they were very
personal to you when
you wrote them but
do you when you sing
them feel the same
way?
Don:
For some reason I’ve
always felt that I
just wanted to be
naked when I would
sing songs about
delicate subjects –
love songs, the
songs about
individuals - and
just say the truth.
I think that’s a
nice thing to say
about what I’ve
done. Those songs
are just very
exposed.
Annie:
How do you continue
to look after your
voice so that you
can carry on singing
indefinitely for all
you fans , you know
that we all never
want you to stop.
Don:
I don’t smoke and as
I say I take long
periods of time when
I don’t sing. I also
try to keep my
overall physical
condition in a
reasonable area and
not let myself get
too out of hand with
too much drinking or
eating or lack of
exercise. I live in
a big place and
there are a lot of
stairs to go up and
down and a lot of
ground to cover. If
I’m going to walk
down to the barn
it’s one tenth of a
mile and then come
back and I’ve done a
fifth of a mile. My
wife is quite
athletic and she’ll
prod me once in a
while to get on a
bicycle and I ride
my horses. I look
after them myself –
I don’t have a
stable boy or
anything, I’m the
stable boy. I take
care of my horses, I
doctor my horses so
I’m down there
fiddling around,
lifting shovels and
rakes, bales of hay
and things so the
general way of life
I have keeps me in
pretty good shape.
You can’t really be
weak and sing. You
have to be
physically fit
overall to sing, not
just vocally fit.
Annie:
You have always said
that you love
Christmas and I
wondered if you have
any old traditions
from your childhood
that you have
carried on for you
own children.
Don:
No we don’t have any
things like that but
we do a lot around
here at
Christmas for
ourselves and our
friends and our
community. The Don
McLean Foundation
gives away a lot of
money every year for
homeless shelters
and food banks.
They’re very
stressed this year
and it’s very sad to
see people lining up
for food,
reminiscent of the
Depression and not
looking like it’s
getting any better
any time soon.
Bill Nisbett:
I attended your
concert in Turnhout,
Belgium in July, it
was a great success,
thank you for a
memorable
performance. One of
the things which
struck me was the
sheer physical
effort required from
you. I watched you
conduct the sound
check in blazing
afternoon sunshine
in the Gross Markt,
following which I
saw you do TV
interviews and then
come on stage at
10pm for a near 2
hour show. Do you
find this exhausting
or is it food and
drink to you?
Don:
It is exhilarating,
almost like a work
out at a gym because
it is physically
exhilarating but it
is also mentally
challenging because
you’re again trying
to get to a certain
place via a
different route
every night. The
thing that kills
artists is that they
put a set list on
their guitar and
that’s the only way
they know of getting
from point A to
point Z – do the
alphabet, do one
song after the other
in the exact same
order and that is
the kiss of death.
There was a guy once
who told me if you
can do 10 things and
they only want you
to do three things
and you do those
three things after a
while you’ll only be
able to do three
things. So that’s
one of the reasons I
do many different
songs in the show.
You are either
expanding or
contracting and
you’re either
keeping your mind
and your artistic
idiomatic mastery
flexible or it
becomes rigid and
you’re afraid to
move outside of
those boundaries. So
I like to go to the
end of the diving
board and dive off
and I’ve learnt that
if I fail, so what?
I’ll figure out a
way around that.
Bill Nisbett:
Will you please
settle a difference
of opinion on the
last line of the
chorus of your song
"Jump". I maintain
that the line is "If
you don't jump,
jump, jump, into the
seat by and
by." Others
claim the word is
sea or sweet. Your
confirmation would
be much appreciated.
Don:
Into the “sweet” by
and by.
Bill Nisbett:
The footage on the
site of your Hong
Kong concert
suggests that this
was a great
performance from you
and the band. Is
there any prospect
of the DVD being
released for public
sale? If so I would
be first in line to
buy it.
Don:
I do not anticipate
the release of the
Hong Kong concert
DVD but that doesn’t
mean it might not
happen.
Bill Nisbett:
I have an LP,
released in November
1972 by the United
States Air Force.
You take up one
side, being
interviewed and
singing. The other
side features
someone called Jimmy
Castor. I have
never seen nor heard
of this recording
elsewhere. Do you
recall making it?
Do you have it? If
not do you want it?
Don:
I’ve no idea what
this is. There are a
lot of secondary
releases out there
which use interviews
and live
performances. There
are hundreds of them
that have been put
out legitimately and
illegitimately but I
have no idea what
that one is about.
Terry Kelly:
How influential a
figure was Bob
Dylan for your own
songwriting and how
do rate his work in
terms of overall
cultural
significance?
Don:
He has become
overwhelmingly
pervasive and the
nice thing about Bob
Dylan is that prior
to his appearance,
other than Woody
Guthrie songs, which
were brought to the
American public by
the Weavers, the
idea of a composed
folk song was a song
like Scarlet Ribbons
or Foggy Foggy Due
and that was as far
as it went. So Bob
Dylan opened up a
whole world of lyric
writing and brought
forward a terrific
knowledge of
traditional melody.
He just really
created a genre
himself that is huge
and influenced
people like me
because I had a lot
of early Dylan. I
quit listening to
Dylan in the 70s
because I was busy
with my own career –
in fact I quit
listening to
everything. I didn’t
have time to get
into any new artists
and I didn’t care
because I thought
most of the artists
I liked were right
for me and were from
before the 1970s
anyway. I was in
the middle of the
singer-songwriter
movement and there
were a lot of good
songwriters around
in those days that
were really
challenging but no
one like Dylan who I
found for me opened
up my eyes and made
me realise I could
write anything I
wanted and about
anything I wanted in
any way I wanted to
write it. So that’s
how he affected me.
But today it seems
like every kid tries
to sound like Bob
Dylan. I think his
singing is more
pervasive influence
today than it has
ever been. So what
you have – this is
just talking about
his singing now and
singing in general –
are two camps that I
notice. One is the
Dylan camp which has
kids trying to sound
like Dylan. And the
other is the Motown
camp in which they
try to sound like
Marvin Gaye or
Smokey Robinson or
Aretha Franklin or
Whitney Houston.
There are problems
with both of those
styles – and you see
them on American
Idol. The Dylan camp
does not really
realise how good a
singer Bob Dylan is
and how beautiful
most of his melodies
are. So they just
hear the raw side
they decide if they
could just write a
lot of gibberish
lyrics and sing
terribly that
somehow they are
profound. The other
camp is more
technically facile
as singers but they
seem to have to sing
14 notes when two
will do. So they’re
both equally
amateurish and
they’re awful; just
awful and I find
them very difficult
to listen to.
Alan:
Is this just a
problem with talent
show contestants?
Who do you think are
good singers at
present?
Don:
I would say that
Mariah Carey is an
excellent singer and
so is Christina
Aguilera – they are
both very good
singers in that
mould. But then you
have the kids trying
to copy them singing
way too many notes;
they just don’t get
it.
Joe Quimby:
Obviously today’s
popular “music” is
sub-par. But many
things in life are
cyclical. Do you
envision a return
someday to music
that is written and
performed for the
benefit of the heart
instead of the bank
account?
Don:
First of all, music
that benefited the
heart has always
been for the bank
account. We must
never forget that
we’re in show
business. What we
have seen however is
a change from being
about music to it
being about video
and about looks and
about television.
What’s gone is the
songwriting craft
and all that went
with it. Will it
return? I do not
believe so. My
friend Joel Dorn was
a very wise person
and he once said,
and I agree with
him, things have a
beginning and a end.
The big bands are
not coming back; the
songwriters are not
coming back; 50s
rock n roll is not
coming back. So my
answer to that is
fairly unequivocal -
I don’t believe any
of it is coming
back. I think that
you should get ready
for the future,
whatever that is.
Joe Quimby:
I once heard you
mention that your
children were
“flabbergasted” when
they heard ‘Castles
in the air’ playing
while they were in a
supermarket. Would
you say that they
now have their
‘heads wrapped
around’ the idea of
who you are?
Don:
I would say yes they
do but I don’t
really know what
that means. There is
so much out there on
Youtube and the
website. I am amazed
at the presence I
have on the Internet
so I don’t know what
they do in their
spare time in terms
of finding out about
their father.
Joe Quimby:
Were he alive today
it’s unlikely that
Jim Croce would
still be writing and
singing about truck
driving and drinking
in bars. But have
you ever
contemplated what
subjects he might
have explored
musically?
Don:
I have no idea what
he would have
written about but I
can tell you that
Jim Croce would have
had a lot of hit
records. He wrote
hits; that’s what he
wrote. He didn’t
write songs which,
like I do, once in a
while get lucky and
become hits. He
wrote songs that
were stone cold hit
records and he would
have had a lot of
them you can be sure
of that.
Joe Quimby:
Approximately what
age did you become
aware that your
talent was of the
VERY rare kind and
was it one
particular event
that told you that
or a gradual
accumulation of
successes that told
you that?
Don:
I don’t think my
talent is rare.
What’s rare about me
is that I’ve
defended all efforts
to try to make me
into something I’m
not. The only thing
that makes me rare,
if I am, is that I
haven’t been turned
into something I’m
not. What can happen
when you’ve been
around for forty
years, and this is
something that
happens a lot, you
start to become a
parody of yourself.
You go through the
motions and you
become an impression
of yourself. You
don’t really do
yourself anymore,
because you don’t
know who you are and
that comes when you
become very famous
and then you work a
lot all the time and
I just think that
happens to a lot of
people. That’s the
reason I don’t work
an enormous amount
because I don’t want
to parody myself.
Joe Quimby:
What is the longest
period of time
you’ve gone without
picking up the
guitar?
Don:
Oh I don’t know, a
month maybe.
Joe Quimby:
It seems obvious
that Buddy
Holly would have
loved American Pie –
but have you ever
asked yourself what
he would have
thought of it? And
what did you decide?
Don:
I’ve no idea what
Buddy Holly would
think of anything
but I can tell you
that he died when he
was 21 years old and
he probably had 60
major tracks
recorded, and every
one of them a hit
record - and he
wrote most of the
songs himself. Let’s
see somebody beat
that!
An artist has to be fairly stupid to really want to do the same thing over and over again; either that or so mercenary that they don’t mind becoming a parody. Buddy was very smart and got bored with the same thing very quickly. He tried many different things including recording with a classically trained flamenco guitarist; and singing different songs in a different way - which you can hear on The Buddy Holly Story. He was becoming more Buddy Holly “as himself” and moving away from The Crickets. He was an enormous talent and he had a lot of creative interests.
Joe Quimby:
Your mother lived
quite a bit longer
than your father and
was around to see
your success. What
was her basic
reaction to your
“overnight success”
in 1971? Was it
more: “make sure to
bank your money” or
was it more: “so
THIS is what you’ve
been doing all day
huh?”.
Don:
My mother never
thought about money
and she never really
understood what was
going on. My
mother always
believed in me and
always loved my
singing. She thought
I had magic in me;
of course all
parents think their
children have magic
in them and all
children do have
magic. The problem
is society knocks it
out of them; it
knocks the
creativity out of
the kids and makes
them into little
automatons. But
they’re creative –
oh my god they’re
always making
pictures and writing
songs, singing and
dancing and
expressing
themselves. Then
they get in the
school system and by
the time that’s
finished with them
they’re afraid to
think. Between the
school system and
religion they’re
completely screwed
up. My continued
illnesses took me
out of both of those
institutions
successfully and I
think this is
probably the reason
why I found things
to latch onto that
satisfied me and
gave me so much
pleasure and
happiness singing
and later playing
the guitar and later
performing and later
writing songs and
making records. All
of this stuff was
just so much fun and
so I never was
sucked into the
system.
My mother was very supportive and I would kid around with my mother and one day I told her that I was going to try out for the singing contest at the World Fair. I said ‘you just be ready now for the trophy I’m going to bring him.’ She said ‘Oh Don stop that…’. Anyhow I walked in the door with the trophy, it was about four feet high. She was always getting surprised by me but often said “I didn’t raise you; you raised yourself.” My mother was very honest and would come out with very cogent blunt assessments of things that were right on the money.
Joe Quimby:
Are you an early
riser?
Don:
Yes I am but I’m
also an insomniac.
I’m up all hours of
the night and day. I
take a nap in the
day and I’ll be up
at two in the
morning. I get up at
6.30 usually and may
snooze for half an
hour and then go to
4 in the afternoon
so it’s really
weird; I’m
completely messed up
as far as my
sleeping habits go.
Joe Quimby:
Are you a black
coffee man?
Don:
No but I am a coffee
man and I like milk
in my coffee.
Alan:
What’s your
favourite food?
Don:
I can tell you that
I’ve eaten at some
of the best
restaurants in the
world but every now
and again we will be
on a bus tour of the
UK and you know stop
somewhere at a pub
and have roast beef
and beer and all the
fixings and I think
that’s probably my
favourite food. Or
we’ll go to a place
in Ireland and have
corned beef and
cabbage - I like
the straight down
the middle working
man’s dinner.
Alan:
What you normally
eat at home?
Don:
My wife is a
terrific cook and
she makes all kinds
of different things
which is part of the
reason I’ve put on
weight in the last
20 years. But I
wanted to mention
something about that
also. I had a
medical condition
which required some
cortisone use for a
couple of years and
it caused it to
appear that I put on
a tremendous amount
of weight. People
may wonder why that
happened but that’s
why. Also I never
really shook the 20
pounds I put on when
I got married
because my wife
cooked for me so
well. Alan, you have
never put on any
weight which is
remarkable – your
wife must be a
terrible cook!
Alan:
I do most of the
cooking.
Don:
It must be highly
indigestible!
My wife is a natural cook and she loves sweets and never puts on weight. So she’ll go to the restaurant and have four deserts and encourage me to have a bite of each but I just look at those deserts and put on 10 pounds. In the horse world that is known as being an “easy keeper”.
Christy:
"Everybody Loves me
baby" IS about the
coming of Dubya,
isn't it? Remarkably
prescient of Don.
Don:
Well it certainly
does sound like it!
I have to admit!!
Unbelievable! And I
invented that guy!
Joe Quimby:
Is it a safe bet
that Don Mclean will
not be fundraising
for Sarah Palin in
2012 (or any other
time)? ;)
Don:
No I won’t be fund
raising for
Republicans period.
They’ve really
disappointed me in
this last eight
years and I would
say that as far as
Sarah Palin goes
that she is the
embodiment of blind
ambition.
Christy:
A friend suggests
that often Don is
just playing with
words and doesn't
mean for his songs
to mean anything.
Don:
Well I do play with
words a lot and
often in songs I
would coin words and
I would make phrases
like “teenage
broncin’ buck” – I
always thought that
referred to my
bronchial condition.
It’s a little inside
joke for myself, you
know!!
So I would do things like that that were basically silly and correct they have no meaning at all; it was just for fun. There’s a lot of that in Narcissisma.
Joe Quimby:
You spoke very
thoughtfully in your
book about
songwriting
technique. Recently
a version of
American
Pie performed at
WMUC radio in
College Park
Maryland has
surfaced. In that
recording the line
appears often as: "I
drove my
chevy.....". The
actual recording
omits the "I" of
course. Can you give
your reasoning for
the omission or was
it more a spur of
the moment decision.
Please excuse the
song question; but I
do think this
unearthed recording
excuses the
questioner to some
extent ;)
Don:
I’ve no idea what
this recently
surfaced tape is all
about. I don’t know
what it is. I’m not
surprised - I sang
the song and I would
change around with
the lyrics and have
fun with them. It
was so long ago now
and I was a child. I
didn’t have any idea
that anything I did
would be talked
about all these
years later and that
every little change
I made would be seen
as meaning
something. I would
just do it just for
kicks.
Lise Mitchell:
The day the music
died happened on my
first birthday. JP
Richardson was best
man in my
sister-in-laws'
second wedding, and
one of Buddy Holly's
cousins works for my
aunt and uncle in
Gainesville, Texas -
they have a
commercial florist
growing business.
I've memorized the
entire song......and
have always felt a
particular closeness
to it.
My question - how you ever been to that place - where the plane went down? What did you feel there? How does Buddy influence today - in contrast with the way he influence you so long ago.
Don:
In the eighties
there were some
pictures that
surfaced of the
plane wreckage and
I was appalled. No I
have no interest in
going to where the
plane went down or
any of that stuff
and I think it’s
tacky and I think
people shouldn’t do
things like that.
I’m sure it’s not a
place Buddy
Holly wanted to be
so I don’t think
there’s any reason
to go there.
Thanh-Xuân Vo:
I love your song
"1967". The lyrics
are so real ! I
would like to know
when did you write
that song exactly,
and if "buddy Joe"
really existed for
you.
Don:
No, Joe did not
exist and I was not
in the Vietnam War
but it was a fantasy
and I’m very proud
of that song. I
think the Headroom
album was quite an
artistic success
from my point of
view. Again, I had
to fight uphill – no
one involved with
that record liked
it, nobody wanted to
do what I was doing.
It was such an extra
burden that was
placed on me in
order to get that
record made.
1967 was a fantasy
and I wrote it a
long time after
Vietnam. It occurred
to me that we were
very cruel to a lot
of the Vietnam
veterans because
this country hated
that war just as
they hate the war in
Iraq. Although we’ve
learned not to be
cruel to the
soldiers because
we’ve realised they
went just where they
were sent. So the
song says “I went
because they sent
me”. There are some
young men and women
who don’t think
passed that point
because their
country tells them
to do something,
they feel it’s their
patriotic duty
obligation to do
what the country
says. You have to
respect that even
though it’s not the
best result you
would hope for after
a long period of
time in the
educational system
but it has to be
respected.
Thanh-Xuân Vo:
Is there a story
behind your song
"You have lived" ?
What does the phrase
"this frightened
atmosphere" mean?
Don:
It’s one of those
songs about a girl
whose not afraid to
be herself. The
“frightened
atmosphere” is the
way things are
always. Look how
frightened we are
all the time. In
fact the Bush
administration has
made a career out of
frightening the
American public.
Just recently we’ve
been frightened into
giving 700 billion
dollars to the
people who stole it.
So it’s always a
frightened
atmosphere – that’s
the world around you
and that song
respects the
individual who will
be his or herself.
Harry Tavitian:
Your "Homeless
Brother" L.P. is a
huge favourite of
mine. Among the
tracks is George
Harrison's "Sunshine
Life for Me (Sail
Away Raymond)". I
would like to ask
you how you came to
record this song. It
is a fine, fine
version and I wonder
if Harrison ever
made a comment on
it. Thank you.
Don:
I have no idea where
I heard that song –
maybe it was on a
Ringo record. But
Joel Dorn got one of
the greatest
percussionists in
the world in that
studio – Ralph
McDonald. Ralph
McDonald was a
terrific person, a
wonderful guy and a
phenomenal talent.
Ralph McDonald
created that whole
thing and it sounds
like birds and
jungle and it was
remarkable. That’s
the kind of thing
Joel Dorn did – he
handmade a
recording. He would
spend hours and
hours and hours
overlaying like a
tapestry and
stitching together a
track. I just loved
him and I miss him.
His tracks were also
very delicate. You
could see into them
a great distance and
there were tiny
sounds. You could
listen to the track
a 1000 times and
always hear
something else. That
to me is the art of
making records that
I miss and the
people I used to
work with who could
do that are no
longer around.
Janis Thornton:
Don, my favorite
song of yours is
"Empty Chairs." I'd
always thought the
woman, who was the
object of the song,
had given up on the
relationship and
walked away. But
now, 30 years later,
when I listen to the
song, I believe the
woman has died.
What, in your mind,
did happen to the
woman?
Don:
It is the end of a
relationship -
that’s what that
song is about.
Dave Power:
I have seen you many
times over the last
36 years and most
recently in
Manchester and
Liverpool where you
were kind enough to
sign my 1973 English
tour programme. Your
performances have
meant I have
discovered older
music songwriters
and artists which I
would never have
known. You are
almost a curator of
music history which
without you would be
lost. Have you ever
thought of
documenting your
encyclopaedic
knowledge of songs
,musical style and
songwriters in a
book, future
recordings or a
documentary? It
would make a great
TV series .There are
few people left who
can pass on this
legacy with both
integrity and
authenticity. Many
thanks for enriching
my life,
Don:
That would require
work and I don’t
like work, I like
fun. My idea of
doing a TV series is
not fun so I have no
interest in any of
that stuff. But I
love interviews,
interviews are
great. I like
interviews over the
phone too. Alan - I
love your wife, I
love your children –
they’re terrific –
but you’re getting
the chicken pox so I
wouldn’t want to be
in the room with you
doing this
interview. I’d be
thinking about how
you looked and
whether I saw any
indication of your
disease and it would
cause me not to be
able to think
clearly about the
answers. So the
phone is great. In
fact I thought a
great idea for a
documentary movie
would be to have a
lot of phone calls
with me answering
questions while
they’re showing the
footage of stuff.
I have a very disjointed and spotty encyclopaedic knowledge of music. You know I know whole repertoires of people I like but then I know a lot of dumb songs and I know a lot of pop songs and a lot of folk songs; a lot of rockabilly and rock n roll songs but there are huge areas of country music that I’m not familiar with and many artists in country music I’m not familiar with. Then I have a lot of areas that are of interest to no one but myself so I don’t think it would make a great TV show as I would really have large areas that I was ignorant of and then small areas that I was very knowledgeable about. It’s spotty.
Jouko Linko:
I´ve been a Don
McLean-fan for
forty years but I´ve
never seen you
live. I´m not sure
if you ever been to
Sweden or Norway.
Don:
I’ve been to both
Sweden and Norway.
Jouko Linko:
But I know you never
been to Finland - so
have you ever
thought of playing a
few gigs in Finland?
Don:
I have been to
Finland in the
seventies. I like
Finland and I like
the way they love
reindeer over there
– they eat reindeer,
they play with
reindeer. You hear
the reindeer all the
time and I like
Christmas, so I love
Finland. And I like
the people there.
Roelof Willems:
May be you think I
have a sort of
strange question.
Although I’m only 56
years old, I
sometimes think
about the music that
should be played at
my cremation.
Don:
Oh boy.
Roelof Willems:
I think it’s better
to choose the music
myself – although I
may not hear it then
– than leave it to
my relatives. I know
exactly what I want
the people to listen
to. It will be the
last message to my
beloved ones. The
song that surely
must be played is
“Oh my what a shame”
from the Don McLean
album (your best
album ever, I
think). My question
is what is the
reason for writing
this song and do you
think that the
lyrics are suitable
for a
funeral/cremation?
Don:
Well first of all I don’t think you should be thinking about your funeral when you’re 56. I think you should plan to live till 96 and live that way. But I understand the reality and I guess it is fun to think about what people will think if you’re not around. I’ve learnt that the older you live the less people give a damn when you die because they feel you’ve had a great life and now it’s time for you to get out of here.
Roelof Willems:
Did you ever think
about the music you
want to be played at
your funeral or
cremation?
Don:
No. When I die I have no idea of what my wife will do if I pre-decease her but my music will be played all over the place so you won’t be able to get away from me for a while.
Roelof Willems:
Beside “Oh my what a
shame”, I want to
have played “Rain on
the Roof” by The
Lovin’ Spoonful (my
all time favourite),
a song by Buddy
Holly (possibly
“True Love Ways”)
and a song by
Madonna (“Live to
Tell” or “Gone”). By
the way, great
concert this year at
Turnhout. Thank you
very much for that.
Don:
The song “Oh my what
a shame” is
influenced a little
bit by “The Water
is Wide” and also by
the fact that we
never really
understand why we
do so many things –
whether it’s go to
war or fall in love
or why things happen
the way they do.
It’s an interesting
little song. A lot
of songs I wrote I
don’t even know what
I’m writing until
I’ve written it and
then I look at it
and think ‘oh that’s
interesting’.
There’s just
something about life
that’s not what you
think it is. I mean
Alan you’re right in
the middle of a
wonderful time
period with your
children and your
wife – it’s just
such a great time
but someday they’ll
walk out of the door
and they’ll go to
school and you’ll
look in the mirror
and you’ll be older
and you’ll think
‘what happened?’ I’m
kinda there now – my
daughter is at
college, my son is
six inches taller
than I and so it’s
quite a mystery.
It’s like a river
that flows along and
things move very
slowly and soon some
things are just out
of sight and some
things are so far
out of sight like my
friends at Iona that
I can’t even
remember how it was
anymore. I’ve now
had 22 years of
married life, raised
my children but the
great part about it
is that it keeps
coming around and
around because now
the kids are older
they are great
friends and we’re
all very close and
hopefully the tribe
will increase and
become more dynamic.
So you lose and you
gain so that’s why I
think it’s a very
poor use of your
time to think about
your cremation.
There is so much
living to do.
There may even be a time in the future when I’m totally inspired to write a lot of songs and maybe I’ll make a double album of all new things because some switch got switched on. But right now that switch is off and the album Addicted to Black will be the last album of my own songs unless a switch is switched on at some point. I don’t believe in being a bore or putting out a lot of crap that nobody cares about and I don’t believe in repeating myself and I never was very impressed by songwriters who weren’t very good but say “I’ve written 600 songs” – well so what. I just try to do a few things that matter to me and this album does matter to me and I think people will like it.
Apzal Hosein:
Hi Mr. Mclean. I
have been a devout
follower of your
music but as yet not
saw you in concert.
Do you think
realizing a dream
coming true there is
a loss to the
dreamer? In other
words if I saw you
in concert will i
lose the awe that i
currently have of
you or should i take
the risk. I am a
Muslim and my
religion preaches
against holding any
human in too much
esteem as it is a
form of worship.
What do you thing of
that concept? That
is why Muslims have
no idea of what the
prophet of Islam
looks like. This
way we can
concentrate only on
God and not on for
eg. Jesus- whom we
consider a great
prophet of God and a
Brother to Muhammad
and just that. A
fan always.
Don:
This is a very
interesting. Well I
would say that we
don’t understand
Muslims as well as
we should. I would
also say that we
don’t understand
other countries as
well as we should.
We definitely, and
I’m speaking as an
American, do not
respect the strength
and the traditions
of people in foreign
countries. We have
learned the lesson
repeatedly in
America that we
think we can go over
to a country like
Vietnam or to Iraq
and step on these
people and think
they’re just going
to roll over because
they’re poor and
we’re rich and
they’re weak and
we’re strong. In
fact we find out
that they are strong
and we are weak. We
need to learn this
lesson and it’s a
very important
lesson to learn.
A guy like George Bush never learnt this lesson because a guy like George Bush never went to public school. In my public school in New Rochelle, if a guy like George Bush was around he would have been beaten up once a day every day until he didn’t have the attitude that he has. But he never had that happen so he avoided that part of his education which we as public school kids had to learn and that is to respect the other guy; respect the little guy; respect the quiet guy; and don’t think that you’re a tough guy just because you’re a rich guy. Anybody can be rich but it takes a lot of character to really be tough.
I would say that this individual should do what his heart tells him to do. I would love to meet him and to have him come to one of my shows and I’m sure when the show is over he would not hold me in too much esteem but he would say he had enjoy it.
Bill Hamilton:
It is said that you
intended your free
concert in Hyde Park
in 1975 to be a
thank you and a
farewell to your UK
fans. Was that
genuinely your
intention at that
time, what did you
plan to do instead,
and what made you
change your mind to
the extent that you
still grace our
shores 30 years
later?
Don:
This is an urban
legend. I don’t know
where this came
from.
Alan:
It’s in the book.
Don:
Well it’s your
fault, you did it!
No, no, I never intended it to be a farewell. I was just getting started; I don’t know how that got out. Did I say that?
Alan:
I think you did. It
was in all the
original interview
material for the
book. You said ‘the
pressures of three
and a half years
superstardom had
become so intense
that you yearned to
step completely out
of the public eye.’
Don:
Oh well. I want to
correct myself.
It had to do with my withdrawal in 74 when I kind of cracked up a little bit, which was written about in the book so it might have been connected to that whole thing. I probably did want to step out of the spotlight but I never intended to retire or give up or anything like that. People have always thought I should retire but I never planned to do that.
Alan:
In the book you
actually say the
concert was
“torture”:
Don:
The 1970s were
torture. It was
basically my poor
mind adjustment to
the requirements of
success. I found
that being
successful required
so much of me and
being fundamentally
a guy who wants to
do what he wants to
do I found myself in
a straight-jacket a
lot of the time,
racing around from
radio station to
radio station and
doing this and that.
This was the part I
didn’t enjoy. Also
there were a lot of
personal things
going on – I was
married at the time
and miserable with
that situation; it
was just horrible.
It’s sad because it
was such a great
time for me and I
should have been
able to enjoy it
more.
That’s the reason that third album, “Don McLean”, was written and is the way it is. I’m just a conduit; just a camera – I try to keep telling my story and other people’s stories as I see them through that lens without any kind of filter and without any kind of apology. It’s not a commercial approach to being in the music business; that’s not the way they do it. The way you do it is you sing songs that become hits. That’s not how I do things but in spite of that fact some songs have become famous, so I don’t know, how do you explain that? I don’t have an answer.
There are other urban legends by the way. One of them is that I didn’t play “American Pie” for a long time. That’s totally false. I always played that song because I knew it was what people wanted to hear. They pay a lot of money to hear me and I would never not play it and disappoint them. It sometimes sounds like I am always doing everything to please myself but I’m actually very interested in pleasing the audience and making them happy while at the same time enjoying it myself so we both have a good time. I think that’s the key to my longevity – I still enjoy my performing, it’s not torture. I’m very concerned that I give everything I possibly can because it might be the last time I’m ever there, you never know. I treat every show as if it’s the last one.
Jo:
I love your songs
from the
Believers album,
they are truly
unique and were
recorded I believe
after you'd been
living in Israel for
a period of time.
Was there something
particularly
inspirational about
that country or that
period of time in
your life?
Don:
The Believers album
could have been
better – I sort of
fell down on the job
on that one. However
we do quite a few
songs from the
Believers album now
with the new
guitarist.
The Israel experience was a life changer for me because I realised how incredibly safe America was relative to a country like Israel where you could hear the Iran- Iraq war progressing every night and bombs were going off and the PLO were around. People experienced all kinds of violence on a daily basis; everyone carried a gun and there were a lot of soldiers around with military weapons. So once I got through with that and I came back to America I realised that we didn’t have any problems and that I didn’t have any problems so it was a big step forward in becoming less self-indulgent for me.
Alan:
Have you returned to
Israel since the
1980s?
Don:
No I have no
intention of going
back to that area
again. It’s quite
different and I
wouldn’t feel
comfortable there
now but it was an
interesting
experience.
Jo:
Do you have the time
or inclination for
sightseeing when
you're on tour?
Don:
I do sightseeing
when I’m on tour
because I’m in a
sightseeing bus. We
stop at all sorts of
places and have
dinner or see some
beautiful historic
place. So yes I see
a lot as I travel
around but I’m not a
guy that brings a
camera and does all
that. It all goes in
my head and that’s
how I like it - I
want to remember
what I remember.
Joe Quimby:
With all the touring
and travel you've
had to do over the
years are you
"averse" to
vacationing? Is it
more of a vacation
if you get to stay
at home?
Don:
Well it is a
vacation when I stay
at home and that’s
why I have a
wonderful place that
is very hard to
leave. I have taken
vacations with the
children and we may
do that again.
However I am
somewhat averse to
travelling unless
there is a musical
reason for it or
some reason to do
with it that has to
do with career. I’m
just done so much
that I’ve almost got
an allergy to
airports.
Alan:
Do you ever take an
overseas vacation?
Don:
Oh god no.
They even asked me to speak at Trinity College in Ireland but I couldn’t do it, I just couldn’t travel over there. I didn’t even go to California when BMI wanted to give me an award when ‘American Pie’ was going great. You couldn’t blast me out of this house with dynamite and so I’ve turned down a lot of things like that and sometimes they offered me a lot of money and I just have to say I’m sorry I can’t do that. There’s something to be said for sleeping in your own bed on a regular basis.
f.a.martorana 68
Iona:
I had the pleasure
of meeting you again
in Mason, Ohio in
2004 after 36 years.
You were signing
autographs after
your concert. I
brought the 68
College yearbook up
to you because i
graduated the same
year. and was in a
couple of economics
classes with you
taught by Bro.
Anthony Glennon.
There was a long
line waiting for
your autograph and i
wanted to ask you
who was the red
cherub face guy that
you used to pal
around with. I
remember his face
but for the life of
me can't find him in
the yearbook. I
think you and he
played in a group
but i could be
wrong. i know you
were friends with
him. He looked Irish
or Scottish and i
think you used to
play music together
in the concerts in
the library or in
Mcspadden hall, but
i can't say for
sure.
Don:
I do not remember
that individual.
f.a.martorana 68
Iona:
Do you ever
socialize at all
with your Iona
friends or is that
not possible? Anyway
if you could take
the time to answer
that question i
would appreciate it.
I remember you in 68
as wearing somewhat
of a cashmere coat
with your guitar
strapped around you
neck who knew 4
years later all the
world would be
singing your classic
hit American Pie.
Don:
No, I don’t really
have any friends
from Iona. I
basically lost touch
with high school and
college immediately
after I graduated.
In fact I saw a very
interesting
biography on Weird
Al Yankovic, who is
a terrific guy and
friend of ours. He
got a degree in
Architecture and he
said that I knew
when I got my
degree, standing in
cap and gown, I was
getting a degree I
would never use and
it was the only time
I’ve said heard
someone say exactly
what I thought the
day I got my degree
in Business
Administration. I
knew the first thing
I was going to do
was to get as far
away from New
Rochelle as possible
and start pursuing
my singing career. I
never like the word
“dream” – I never
pursued a “dream”; I
pursued a reality -
I had goals. I
really don’t like
the term the
“American Dream” –
the problem with my
country is that
people really do
dream too much and
now they’re getting
a very rude
awakening. I
therefore prefer to
set goals for myself
and try to achieve
those goals so I
couldn’t wait to get
at those goals and
try to achieve them
the day after I got
out of college.
Neil Mungur:
I was wondering if
you had any idea of
just how special the
American Pie album
was whilst you were
recording it?
Don:
No, I did not.
Neil Mungur:
It still sounds
incredible today. I
also wondered why
for so long after
you didn't perform
the title track?
sorry if these have
been asked before.
Don:
That’s an urban myth
and it seems every
interview I’ve ever
done I’ve been asked
about that. And in
every interview I’ve
done I’ve said it’s
not true and that
I’ve always sung the
song. But still
people will not get
it and stop asking
that question. It
makes me wonder how
true history can
possibly be when I
cannot even correct
a small factual
error and I’m alive!
It just makes you
wonder, is any of
the history you read
true?! It makes you
realise that people
really believe what
they want to
believe. They
believe the myth
that it was too much
of a burden for me,
which was floated
out there by many of
the rock writers
because I could
never follow the
song, and therefore
it must be a burden
and therefore I
probably wouldn’t
sing it. It’s just
all a bunch of BS.
Terry Steer:
I haven’t missed a
concert tour since
1973 – those early
concerts at the
Hordern Pavillion (I
even have one of
them on audio tape)
It seems to me that
the numbers which
get the loudest
applause are the
solo numbers. Is
there any chance
you’ll do another
solo concert tour?
Don:
There is no chance
that I will do a
solo tour. The
applause for the
solo numbers comes
because of the
contrast. An hour of
me just singing by
myself is not
something that I
would want to hear
anymore. Maybe in
the 70s it was
different but I’m
not tuned into the
whole timing and
rhythm required to
do that. It is
something that is
reminiscent of my
folk roots which
were never real and
permanent – they
were just part of
what I was. I try to
keep every aspect of
what I have done in
the concerts so I do
a solo number once
or twice or sit down
for 20 minutes and
play the guitar. I
like to listen to
people play the
guitar but I also
like singing with a
group.
Dick Brownfield:
Have you ever been
in a movie or are
you planning to be
in one? I'd like to
see you perform a
song in the next
Bond flick. :)
Don:
No I’m not planning
on being in a movie,
however my songs are
all available for
movies and
television. I love
that when it happens
and it happens a
lot. The last one
was Charlie Wilson’s
War with Tom
Hanks which had
“American Pie” in
it.
Nathan Bell:
I would like to ask
about the cover to
the self-titled 'Don
McLean' album. It
has always struck me
as a very beautiful
yet haunting and
melancholy image.
My question is where
was this photo
taken, and what was
Don's inspiration
for using this
image, or how does
he feel it relates
to the music on that
album?
Don:
This is taken by a
man named John Olsen
for a feature on me
in Life
magazine in 1972. It
was taken on a bluff
overlooking the
Hudson River in Cold
Spring, NY, which
was near the little
gatehouse where I
used to live at that
time.
Rick Jennings:
Goofy question
(since I am a
guitarist). Do you
also play electric
guitar ?, and what
do you have for a
instrument
collection ?
Don:
I do not play the
electric guitar. I
can play the
electric guitar but
I would play it in
the same way I play
the acoustic guitar
so there wouldn’t be
any difference. So
what’s the point?
Vivian Harper:
When I come back to
earth again it will
be as a tall
gorgeous blond who
can sing.
Don:
You must mean Julie
London (“Cry me a
River”). Julie
London is the
sexiest female
singer that has ever
lived. In case you
folks out there
don’t know who she
is, she was married
to Jack Webb but she
was the most
beautiful singer
that has ever lived
and a great sexy
singer too.
Vivian Harper:
Have you been a good
father and husband?
The two don't always
go together ....I
think.
Don:
That is a very
difficult question
for me to answer. My
wife and children
would have to answer
that but I can say
that I’ve done my
very best.
Steve Brown:
I would be
interested to know,
that should you ever
be stranded on a
desert island
(heaven forbid)
which three songs of
yours would you
take?
Don:
God, I can’t answer
that… That’s a crazy
question because if
I were on a desert
island I would
remember 10,000
songs.
Anyhow, I guess I’d need a power source of some sort – a solar record player. Let’s assume that could all be worked out and I had a solar ipod with three songs on it that would last a 1000 years. I don’t know which 3 songs but two of them would have to be “Don’t be Cruel” and “Satisfaction”. But then again there are songs that are not down the middle but that I love just as much as songs like “White Christmas” and there might just be a little song on the side that I would listen to as often as a song like “Don’t be Cruel” so I can answer that question.
Alan:
Have you got an
ipod?
Don:
No, I have a sports
Walkman that I’ve
had for 15 years!
Alan:
But you’re all fixed
up on the
Internet and watch
Youtube…
Don:
Yeah, today
Universal Songs
called and they
asked me what my
email address was so
they could send me
an “e-”
Christmas card. I’m
not calling them
back because I want
a Christmas card in
the mail with a
stamp on it, thank
you.
Alan:
Finally, do you have
any plans to retire
from the music
business?
Don:
I don’t plan to
retire from the
music business . It
really is a
wonderful thing that
has happened to me
because I’m a 63
year old man and I
still have people
screaming and
jumping up and down
and getting excited
and it’s such an
honour to still be
able to perform for
all age groups and
get the really good
jobs I get overseas
through the Asgard
Agency and Paul
Charles in London
and Steve Martin.
It’s a nice time in
my life to be having
these types of
things happen and
I’ve been really
enjoying it lately
–instead of sweating
about travel and all
the little things I
have always worried
about, I’ve just
been telling myself
that everything is
going to be alright
and just go with the
flow. I’m not really
a go with the flow
guy. I’m actually a
swim upstream guy
but I’ve been doing
the other thing. I
guess I’ve realised
that I’ve done
enough.
Acknowledgements
We would like to thank all the fans who submitted questions for this interview, including those who weren’t lucky enough to have them featured here. We have included as many questions as we could manage. The transcript has been approved by Don but is entirely “uncut” from what was said in the live interview.